Although our original barrel was defective, we still felt that a 10+ MOA load need some sort of change, and we were hell-bent on making the 88-grain rounds fly. In addition to this, powder capacity is sacrificed to accommodate the long bullet, which reduces velocity. The new rounds maximum case length is 1.600 inches, as compared to the 6.8s case length of 1.686 inches. Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. I am beginning to work up a load for my valkyrie bolt gun. 0000047766 00000 n We took a cartridge that offers less wind drift, drop and recoil and added the accuracy and consistency that made Hornady famous! The results are shown below. Berger also offers several suitable, high-BC target bullets. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. These features include a longer neck, a shoulder thats pushed back a bit, and rifle chambers with longer throats. The powder measures very well and consistently. Round two, here we go. So far both bullets perform well. Just a few weeks later, I found myself at the E.R. I am able to "real world" test at every range from 100-1000 yards so velocity is not important to me. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. trends and tips from the leader in reloading. : 41,900 53,400 Hodgdon 50 gr The best groups were turned in by the Barnes 70-grain TS-X BT, Nosler 60-grain Ballistic Tip and 70-grain RDF, and the Sierra 65-grain Semi Spitzer. I'll be testing anyway. Shown below is Sierras load data for bullet weights from 77 grains to 90 grains. Some writers have described the Valkyrie as a scaled down Creedmoor. However, the Valkyrie case is derived from a slightly shortened 6.8 SPC case, necked-down to .22 caliber. 0000035033 00000 n I switched back to applying just a dab of Reddings Imperial case wax to the lower body, and the rate of dented shoulders dropped to just an occasional occurrence. Rifle #1 has a standard SAAMI-spec throat, but the throat on Rifle #2 is cut a little shorter so that it provides a .010-inch bullet jump for the Sierra 90-grain MK factory ammo. Hornady developed a new 88-grain ELD Match bullet specifically to meet the Valkyries performance requirements. Because I was reloading for an autoloader, I chose to full-length size every case to ensure it would function reliably. Once you know how much distance you need to dial, all you have to do is spin your turret and pray that the wind doesn't affect your bullets course. Whatever works for you. Concluding our test-firing, we found a node at 23.4 grains that produced an adequate group measuring just outside of 1 MOA. The 75-, 77-, 80-, and 90-grain match bullets shot pretty well, too, and would hold up better over longer ranges. You may not reproduce original text or photos without advanced permission in writing. scope set at 10x.3. Starline Brass is well known for its large selection of pistol cases, and now offers over 40 rifle cases. If I find anything better than I already posted I will add it. SAFETY DATA SHEET GET RELOADING DATA (Above) Starline brass makes cases for a host of handgun and rifle cartridges, including the new .224 Valkyrie. What's the Perfect Trigger Pull Weight for a Hunting Rifle? 0000015504 00000 n For the life of us, we couldnt find a factory load that would stay inside of 3 MOA. When it comes to shooting known-distance targets, speed is not an issue. The development of the name of this cartridge is no less interesting that the design of the case itself. 0000003643 00000 n Guys on the facebook page "Valkyrie Ascending Reloading" have convinced me to switch from . The Hornady 88-grain ELD MATCH bullets finally gave us some clustering with 23.4 grains of Varget. 0000097813 00000 n August 16, 2018 By G&A Online Editors. 0000003136 00000 n In addition, Hornady has its exceptional new ELD Match bullet in an 88-grain version, both in loaded ammo and as a component. 0000031612 00000 n Hodgdon Powder Company announced the launch of load data for the new 224 Valkyrie cartridge, now available on Hodgdon's Reloading Data Center at www.HodgdonReloading.com. The .224 Valkyrie enters a crowded field of established cartridges (from left): .223 Remington, 22 Nosler, .224 Valkyrie, 6.8 Remington SPC, 6.5 Grendel, and 22-250 Remington. The cool thing about it is it uses a larger Magwell than std GI & corresponding larger promag. Minuteman. 0000030982 00000 n Established in 1947 by Bruce and Amy Hodgdon, today, sons JB and Bob have grown Hodgdon Powder Company into the largest US supplier of smokeless, blackpowder and blackpowder substitute propellants. The .224-inch diameter bullet has always been readily available in a variety of configurations for a variety of tasks and is a favorite because of its low recoil,so many manufacturers were focused on making an AR-15-sized round to accommodate heavier bullets in this caliber. Gonna put the results in the 2nd post. Basically a 6.8 SPC necked down to .22, the Valkyrie has a shorter case than the .223 Remington (and 5.5645 NATO). "Shooting heavier bullets, in an AR-platform rifle, that maintain supersonic speeds beyond 1,300 yards has captured the interest of shooters and handloaders everywhere. What It Is Not. Starting our journey, we looked at what was already commercially available. A lot of components are available for handloading the new .224 Valkyrie, but load data is limited at present. 0000019414 00000 n For. This data is available for 80 different loads featuring 50- to 90-grain bullet options (from Hornady, Nosler, Federal, Swift and Sierra) and powders from Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester. While new load data will continue to be updated on Hodgdons Reloading Data Center, this new 224 Valkyriedata is available immediately at www.HodgdonReloading.com. The correct shellholder is the same as the 6.8 SPC. NOTE: This is only a partial sample, less than a third of the data Sierra has published. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. The load data contained on this site is intended for use with Barnes Bullets. Varget hits the sweet spot for the best performance in this cartridge.. 0000003057 00000 n I have been an early, yet trepidant, fan of the .224 Valkyrie, and have tested several rifles with many handloads. The 224 Valkyrie does not have a dedicated magazine yet. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. The recent introduction of the Federal Premium 224 Valkyrie, reviewed here by Shooting Illustrated's Ammo editor, aimed at solving this shortcoming, so we decided to see what kind of capabilities could be had with this new round.A number of cartridges have been designed with the idea of getting more effective range from an AR-15-sized cartridge. .224 Valkyrie (Load Development) reloading data with 60 loads. 0000013501 00000 n Nevermind,they made the case length 0.02 shorter than everyone else lists to fit it in. I had plenty of component cases to load. 80.5's still have some possibilities with small changes. .458 Winchester Magnum History: The Complete Story, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. The .223 is limited by powder capacity, but not the usual 7- to 9-inch twists. Looking it over, we found a dozen different powders that we can load with, and staring at me were two of my favorites. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Upgrading to a premium barrel made all the difference in this test. Since I haven't had any feedback I am simply curious. 0000097257 00000 n Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. My intent is to provide basic reloading information for a specific barrel length and type without providing information overload. 4 . : 2.110" Powder: 25.9 gr 28.2 gr Vel. According to Sierra, the ogive on the 95 SMK is 0.661 nominal. A faster barrel will certainly help. In today's episode of "I Carry," we have a Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Metal pistol with a Holosun EPS Red2 red-dot sight carried in a KSG Armory Lexington IWB holster. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? The RL15 sucked at 25.4 with 3 moa, the upped charge at 25.9 grouped it at around 1 moa+-. This prep is carefully described on a card supplied by Starline in their packages. A round that can cover more distance in less time will impact at a similar elevation over a wider range. The new round, the .224 Valkyrie has had a few starts and fits in its birthing, but it finally seems to be flying high, like its namesake. Communism only made one thing that works, and capitalism can make it even better. The rim diameter of both rounds is .442 inch. The average weight of the sample cases was 115.1 grains, with an ES of 2.5 grains, and an SD of .7198 grain. v>012`l{nCew 38m endstream endobj 8 0 obj <>>> endobj 9 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC/ImageI]/Shading<>/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/Thumb 3 0 R/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 432.0 648.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 10 0 obj <> endobj 11 0 obj [/Indexed 12 0 R 13 30 0 R] endobj 12 0 obj [/ICCBased 29 0 R] endobj 13 0 obj <> endobj 14 0 obj <> endobj 15 0 obj <>stream In other words, range estimation becomes less critical, even when it comes to tiny targets like small steel plates or prairie dogs. trailer <<4FA34A0A29BC45DBA22CD0DCBD951645>]/Prev 114384>> startxref 0 %%EOF 86 0 obj <>stream 224 valkyrie 80 eldm load data w/ cfe 223 Thread starterbgavin Start dateOct 17, 2019 Forums Reloading Depot JavaScript is disabled. 0000098223 00000 n I never had to trim one over the course of testing, something I cant say about other brands of .224 Valkyrie cases Ive used. 0000006041 00000 n While it can accept bullets up to 90 grains in weight, they often need to be seated so long that they cannotfit inside an AR-15 magazine. .224 Valkyrie Load Data for 52gr to 95gr Bullets from Sierra If you own an AR, you've probably heard of the hot, new .224 Valkyrie cartridge. Valkyries rode to war on horses wearing shields and helmets; some even flew through the air. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type If you are the site owner (or you manage this site), please whitelist your IP or if you think this block is an error please open a support ticket and make sure to include the block details (displayed in the box below), so we can assist you in troubleshooting the issue. After a quick swap, we headed back to the range and duplicated our test parameters. So much for over spin from the fast twists. The .224 valkyrie should be a better choice with heavier bullets since it is shorter and will allow longer OAL with the longer bullets. CFE-223: Subscribe: 2662: Remarks: COAL (inches): 2.140; 5-shot 100-yard group (inches): 1.75 77: Nosler Custom Competition: Hodgdon: Also on the list wasCFE 223. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. Here's the specifics for this load: (this is a MAX load) Case: New Starline 224 Valkyrie Cases. >V (`f` For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In my testing, both rifles were usually accurate with 88- and 90-grain handloads, but each was somewhat sporadic. Hodgdon CFE 223 is a very fine spherical powder. (Above) Several powders performed well in Starline .224 Valkyrie brass handloads, although Hodgdons CFE 223 is probably the best powder overall. This data is available for 80 different loads featuring 50- to 90-grain bullet options (from Hornady, Nosler, Federal, Swift and Sierra) and powders from Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester. With a G7 BC of .274, it trumps even the 6.5 mm 123-grain ELD MATCH rounds in wind-beating capability, which only has a G7 BC of .255. Both are similar bolt actions and have 22-inch barrels. Both have 22-inch barrrels, and 6.5-inch twists.2. In Norse mythology, Valkyries were maidens who served the god Oden, who ruled over the realm of Asgard. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. The .224 Valkyrie has a lot of potential and an interesting background. As I see it, Federals plan for the .224 Valkyrie seems to be geared to that long-range shooting weve discussed, and factory ammo reflects that. 2520 was solid with both 25.8 and 26.3 both yeilding around 1 moa. The author uses C Products Defense magazines as they. Installing the RISE Armament right at our shooting bench went without a hitch and allowed for better trigger control during shooting. I still had to use the RCBS Trim Mate crimp remover so the primers could be properly seated later without damage. 0000098366 00000 n I know the "best recipes" I have copied from other shooters have been sub-par in my Valkyrie. They loaded smoothly and held up well over many reloads. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I prepped a bunch of new Starline cases, and prepared 28 different handloads, 14 for each rifle, using a wide variety of powders and bullets. Metering it is effortless and very consistent. Give a Gift You must log in or register to reply here. 0000008830 00000 n I tried wiping off excess lube before sizing and removed too much on one case and it seized in the sizer die. | We began zeroing and immediately realized something was off. Introduced by Federal in 2017 and approved by SAAMI in 2018, the new 224 Valkyrie has been quickly adopted by long-range shooters. 0000080640 00000 n This is where the 224 Valkyrie comes in. Just an armorers wrench and a torque wrench were needed to make the swap. It's a bighorn tl3 with 26 inch rock creek barrel. But the Nolser 55- and 60-grain Ballistic Tips also shot great. What powder are you getting the best results with 224 Valkyrie? Powders include Hodgdon, IMR 0000097518 00000 n Most critically, case length (base to mouth) is short enough to allow loading super-sleek, high-BC bullets with long, fine-entry ogives. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Bullet: Berger 22 Caliber 80.5 Grain Fullbore Target. My first pick was IMR 8208, as I have always had good luck using it to push heavy .224-inch bullets down a barrel. With a slower round that's dropping faster, 25 yards of error in range estimation could be the difference between a hit and a miss with asteeper, rainbow-style trajectory. A Luth-AR buttstock with adjustable LOP and comb height and 15-inch M-Lok forend were added. Federal Premium drove it home with the 224 Valkyrie at the 2018 SHOT Show, and a number of barrel manufacturers quickly started churning out barrels chambered in this overnight success. To reduce shooter error, we installed a RISE Armament RA-535 APT match-grade trigger, which broke cleanly at just 3 pounds. *z?hac`T@PDOhiC;;RJ{/MZ&{Z%N |Zbp-Q[ 0 And for top quality handloads, they know they need top-notch cases. We primed our cases with CCI BR-4 benchrest primers, and we were ready for the powder.Hodgdon released its 2018 Annual Reloading Update Manual, and of course, the 224 Valkyrie was right on the cover. 0000099731 00000 n With the 90 to 95 grain bullets, the little Valkyrie can give 6mm match cartridges a real run for their money offering similar ballistics with less recoil. While new load data will continue to be updated on Hodgdon's Reloading Data Center, the new 224 Valkyrie data is available at www.HodgdonReloading.com. At Hodgdon, we've been researching this cartridge since before its introduction and are excited to release load data for the Valkyrie featuring powders like Hodgdon CFE 223, IMR 8208 XBR and Hodgdon Varget. All Rights Reserved. A value-priced red dot with a full set of features. Looks nearly identical to the .223 Ackley Improved. I used RCBS dies, but sets are available from Hornady and Redding, as well. Journey to Find a .223 Rem F-Class Load. Then chamfer the inside of the case mouth, and theyre ready to load. I hoped performing that step would also fully prep the Hornady once-fired primer pockets. Starline and Hornady are also offering .224 Valkyrie, so I obtained 50 pieces of Starline brass and several boxes of Hornady ELD-Match ammo. The Helical fluting does more than just catch the eye. There was no additional work needed to use the AR barrel, and gunsmith John Gallagher performed the needed modifications to the CZ 527. 22 PPC does better on performance. So, I was anxious to try out the new Starline brass in the .224. This certainly speeds up the process and allows for the use of progressive reloading presses. ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 0000101288 00000 n With Sierra's remarkable new 95-grain MatchKing, this gives the little . While the standard twist for the Valkyrie is 7 inches, both test rifles have 6.5-inch twists to see if a little extra spin improves accuracy. I repeatedly experienced lube dents in most of the first batch of cases I resized. A database of .224 Valkyrie handloads. *j. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. However, Lane easily duplicated the ballistics of factory-loaded ammunition. However, a standard 6.8 SPC mag is recommended and will function without any issue. An innovative way to carry your backup gun. containers. The quality of Starline brass is well known, so this is a welcome addition to our loading benches. Use load data at your own risk. 0000100414 00000 n Uniform components are very important for accurate handloads, and Starline cases demonstrated their quality, both on the range and in their empirical measurements. Whether such an arm would crowd out the .223 or 22-250 Remingtons is a question that can be only answered in the marketplace. So, its obvious that these cases are ready to go with minimal, but necessary, preparation. Federal's .224 Valkyrie was designed to fit, feed, and fire in the popular AR-15 platform. Hodgdon Trail Boss: Is it Useful for Modern Sporting Rifles? This data is available for 80 different loads featuring 50- to 90-grain bullet options (from Hornady, Nosler, Federal, Swift and Sierra) and powders from Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester . 0000087437 00000 n Jul 13, 2012 1,535 581 33 . 243 WINCHESTER . At this time, only Federal and Sierra have published load data for the .224 Valkyrie. You need a 6.8 SPC mag for this. Love the quick shipping from . 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. The .224 Valkyrie is indeed a high-tech, purpose-designed cartridge, and the handloads I tested in Starline cases delivered excellent performance with a wide range of components. _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']); This is my favorite powder for .223 Rem & 224 Valkyrie. While new load data will continue to be updated, there is currently data for 80 different loads with bullet weights ranging from 50 to 90 grains from Federal, Hornady, Nosler, Sierra and Swift, and powders from Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester. The dead in Valhalla were considered heroes and were fed lavish feasts by the Valkyries; Oden feasted there with his heroes, day after day. The biggest bonus I have from this is the amount of load data out there that is available. Weather was good, optic was solid and previously tested on other firearms, shooters were both NRA-certified instructors, but still the gun wouldnt perform.Now Ive had plenty of guns that simply could not achieve any reasonable accuracy with factory ammo, so it didnt stop us from carrying on, and we continued.We went through our loads with the 60-grain V-MAX loaded with CFE 223 and they were just a hair better than our average factory group, acceptable but certainly not handload-level accurate. var _gaq = _gaq || []; I set a Trijicon AccuPoint 2.5-12.5x 42mm scope in Precision Hardcore Gear Black Opps 30mm rings for testing. Serious handloaders know the importance of quality cases for accurate ammo. Running the numbers through Hornady's mobile app, we were pleased to find that this loading would only experience 9.1 inches of drop between 200 and 300 yards. For our heavy target round, the new Hornady 88-grain ELD MATCH bullet piqued my interest, and I was excited to have an opportunity to do some work with it.We contacted Hornady for the projectiles and reached out to RCBS for a pair of these scarce dies. Good stuff, I have my hands on a couple boxes of Nosler 85s and have been wanting to test them I also have 6.5 twist , I will give them a try. : 3,213 3,480 Press. For more about the new round, see Steve Gashs full-length review beginning on page 56 of this issue of Shooting Times. : 3,285 3,533 Press. Luckily, this was just a few days before SHOT Show 2019, where I would be immersed in a wealth of gun knowledge and industry information. Designed to rival the .22 Nosler while still running well in ARs, the new .224 Valkyrie offers excellent long-range performance when loaded with modern, high-BC bullets. 0000006404 00000 n 0000003101 00000 n A GI mag wont work beyond 2 or 3 rds anyway. 0000001896 00000 n So maybe the .224 Valkyries higher velocities with long, heavy bullets will carve out a unique niche in the shooting ecosystem, as theres no denying that the new round has the potential to hold its own on the range or in the field. IHFarmer07 Gunny Sergeant. The extremely uniform primer pockets of the Starline cases made priming a breezeno crushed pellets, or goosey-loosey pockets here. The 55-grain BT clocked 3,209 fps with 26.3 grains of IMR-8208XBR and averaged .54 inch. The 60-grain BT preferred 26.0 grains of the same powder, averaging .94 inch at 3,089 fps. What seating depth is actually doingactual node or just pass/fail? You are using an out of date browser. SPF Bighorn .223 Wylde barreled action $1500. This substance is a mild lubricant that should be removed from the inside of the case necks before loading. Overall, these are very respectable results for sportier-weight rifles. This is available to consumers in 100-round bags. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. I concentrated mostly on the heavier bullets, as per Federals model. Reduced recoil. I have been through the wringer on a few different load developments, but this one really had us thrown for a loop. Fortunately, this is a one-time step in the reloading process. Location. Barrel Break-In: What It Is. 0000043396 00000 n Pounding the proverbial pavement, I heard from a number of sources that a bad batch of chamber reamers have made their way through the industry, leading to some aftermarket barrels being out-of-spec. Make sure to watch till the end. 0000034850 00000 n 0000056500 00000 n (speaking to AR mag length loading) Edit: Case capacity (velocity) for: .223 is 31.4g (3370fps) .224V is 34.5g Interesting data, thanks for taking the time to post. (Above) Test handloads were prepared with RCBS dies. 0000097375 00000 n "Shooting heavier . America's favorite platform, the AR-15, reigns supreme in many applications. Hornady's match-grade 224 Valkyrie load features an 88-grain ELD Match bullet with a polymer tip that, unlike standard polymer-tipped ammo, won't melt in flight at extreme velocities. 0000022543 00000 n But do you know how to properly use them? These are all shown in Table 2. As an example, the 6.5 Creedmoor was introduced in 2008, and is indeed a terrific cartridgeflat shooting, efficient, and super accurate. Hodgdon Powder Company has announced the launch of reloading data for the new .224 Valkyrie, now available on the company's Reloading Data Center website.. trends and tips from the leader in reloading. Im thinking about buying a LWRC 224 Valkrie when it gets here. Again, the Sierra 65-grain SBT shot great, at .66 inch. 'Identical' AR-15 Upper Receivers: Are They Really the Same? Over the years, I've always been able to fine-tune cartridges to run better than factory ammo, and I was certain this cartridge wouldn't be any different or so I thought. The new .224 Valkyrie was introduced late last year as a Hot Rod cartridge that will work in AR15s. Interestingly, both rifles shot most loads with varmint-weight bullets pretty well.

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